Subject: Re: Dead white malesFrom: searchbot-ga on 04 Jun 2002 12:28 PDT

It was even discussed that Helnwein's womenwere to face the men in the entrance hall of the Museum Ludwig,Cologne. It doesn't seem that this idea was realized, though. Thefirst source has a picture in it which shows Helnwein, accompanied byfamous German feminist Alice Schwarzer. (Schwarzer, had -- accordingto the text -- been publicly raving about the fact that Richter hadonly painted men, which eventually triggered the idea in Helnwein tocreate female counterparts.) Anyway, in the background, you see someof Richter's original portraits. I know you're looking for thephotographies, but I still thought this might interest you.

QuestionSubject: Dead white malesCategory: Arts and Entertainment > Visual ArtsAsked by: sa-gaList Price: $5.00 Posted: 04 Jun 2002 03:06 PDTExpires: 04 Jul 2002 03:06 PDTQuestion ID: 20593I asked this question previously, but accidentally closed it. Here it is again:There is (or was) an exhibit at the San Francisco Museum of Modern Artthat featured a gallery of black and white photos of dead white males,perhaps 50 of them. I have recently found myself haunted by thisexhibition and would like to see it again, on the Web.I saw it in on about 14 June 2001. I got the impression that it wasthe work of a single artist, because all of the photos were presentedin a similar way. They were manipulated copies of classic publicityshots.------------------------------------------------------------------------Clarification of Question by sa-ga on 04 Jun 2002 06:08 PDTI'm sorry, grimace and jeremymiles... my question incorrectly impliedthat the subjects of the photographs were dead when the photos weretaken.I believe that Richter is our man. "In 1971 he painted a series of "48Portraits" based on photographic "mug shots" of famous dead whitemales picked out from an encyclopedia." "In the 1990s, Richterproduced boxed sets of photographs made from the "48 Portraits"paintings, themselves once based on photographs."I would love to buy one of those sets.May I say how terrific it is to have such fantastic researchersavailable so easily and quickly. Go Google!searchbot-ga, if you have nothing more to add, please post yourmaterial as an answer and five stars will be immediately forthcoming.AnswerSubject: Re: Dead white malesAnswered By: seedy-ga on 04 Jun 2002 11:24 PDTRated:The exhibit of Richter's work at MOMA in NYC ended on May 21, 2002.The work entitled "48 Portraits" was beautfully exhibited around theupper section of a large stairwell/landing. You are fortunate to havethe total exhibit traveling on the following schedule:* The Art Institute of Chicago June 22 - September 15, 2002* San Francisco Museum of Modern Art October 11, 2002 - January 14,2003* Hirshhorn Museum and Sculpture Garden February 20 - May 18, 2003This work resides permanently at the Museum Ludwig in Cologne,Germany.This people depicted in each painting (Oil on canvas)(transposed fromphotographs)(70 x 55 cm) (painted 1971-1972) are in the order shownfrom left to right:Mihail Sadoveanu (1880-1961), Jose Ortega y Gasset (1883-1955), OttoSchmeil (1860-1943), Gustav Mahler (1860-1911), William James(1842-1910), Arrigo Boito (1842-1910), Jean Sibelius (1865-1957), IgorStravinsky (1882-1957), Hans Pfitzner (1969-1949), Pyotr IllichTchaikovsky (1840-1893), Frederic Joliot (1900-1958), Herbert GeorgeWells (1866-1946), James Chadwick (1891-1974), Alfredo Casella(1883-1947), Max Planck (1858-1947), Paul Adrien Maurice Dirac(1902-1984), James Franck (1882-1964), Paul Claudel (1968-1955),Manuel de Falla 1876-1946), Nicolai Hartmann (1882-1950), Paul Valery(1871-1945), Thomas Mann (1875-1955), Enrico Fermi (1901-1954), JohnDos Passos (1896-1970), Alfred Mombert (1872-1942), Patrick MaynardStuart Blackett (1897-1974), Bjornsjerne Bjornson (1832-1910), FranzKafka (1883-1924), Giacomo Puccini (1858-1924), Louis Victor deBroglie (1892-1987), Saint-John Perse (1887-1975), Graham Greene(1904-1991), Paul Hindemith (1895-1963), Alfred Adler (1870-1937),Albert Einstein (1879-1955), Hugo von Hofmannsthal (1874-1929),Wilhelm Dilthey (1833-1911), Emile Verhaeren (1855-1916), Isidor IsaacRabi (1898-1988), Oscar Wilde (1854-1900), Francois Mauriac(1885-1970), Anton Bruckner (1824-1896), Rainer Maria Rilke(1875-1926), William Somerset Maugham (1874-1965), Karl Manne Siegbahn(1886-1978), Andre Gide (1869-1951, Anton Webern (1883-1945), RudolfBorchardt (1877-1945).As you will note, all of the subjects of this work were NOT DEAD atthe time of the paintings. The selection of individuals is eclecticand facinating.A list of various pricing options for the catalog from this exhibitionis available at the following URL:http://www.mysimon.com/cobrand/about/msrch/index.jhtml?c=bookisbn&pgid=shop&v=1&ptag=about_cb_arttech&pid=189102437X&key=UC_20020604_111607_0298124803Amazon.com lists it for $78.99.I have not been able to find these images online as yet. If I do,I'll be sure to add them to this answer.The exhibit at MOMA was fabulous. The variety of styles are offputting as if the artist was sampling everything from impressionism toabstract impressionism to Op Art....but somehow it all hangs togetherfor me and forms a lasting impression as the "48 Portraits" did toyou.I hope you enjoy the exhibit when it arrives at SFMOMA.Thank you for asking GA this interesting question.seedysa-ga rated this answer:Thank you, team. Great answer!Comments Log in to add a commentSubject: Re: Dead white malesFrom: grimace-ga on 04 Jun 2002 03:46 PDTHi - after a good long search, the only show remotely close to the oneyou're after was an exhibition of Joel Sternfeld's photography - andunfortunately, his work is in black & white (and includes portraits ofwomen).Are you *sure* you've got the right date and city?Subject: Re: Dead white malesFrom: jeremymiles-ga on 04 Jun 2002 04:14 PDTThe closest I have found is:Police Pictures: the photograph as evidence, although this exhibitionended in 1998.See http://www.raintaxi.com/online/1998spring/police.shtml for thebook of photos. (I don't think you will find them on the web.)Hope that helps 9if only a little).Subject: Re: Dead white malesFrom: searchbot-ga on 04 Jun 2002 04:16 PDTThe artist you're probably looking for is Gerhard Richter. There wasan exhibition of his works at the SF MOMA around June, 2001.[ http://www.digitalmediatree.com/onelap/date/2001/ ]Until only recently, the NY MOMA showed "Gerhard Richter: 40 years ofpainting"; a review by Michael Salcman specifically mentiones the deadwhite male paintings you are obviously looking for.[ http://www.peekreview.net/articles_reviews/richter_ms.html ]This source also states that the exhibition will move on to theHirshhorn Museum in Washington [ http://hirshhorn.si.edu ] sometimeafter May 21, 2002. On their site, this particular exhibition is not(yet) mentioned, but they have featured Richter in the past. You maywant to get in touch with them directly to find out more.SF -> Washington may be somewhat of a trip, but if you're reallyhaunted by those paintings, you may even want to take this intoserious consideration.Hope this helps.Best wishes,seachbot-gaSubject: Re: Dead white malesFrom: dr_chung-ga on 04 Jun 2002 04:23 PDTHey,I think here is a main part of your answer:http://www.moma.org/docs/press/2001/gerhard_richter_071801.htmhttp://www.baader-meinhof.com/special/RichterExhibit.htmhttp://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/ASIN/3775710787/302-7247393-4828035Good luck.JoeSubject: Re: Dead white malesFrom: searchbot-ga on 04 Jun 2002 11:34 PDTSo the exhibition comes right back to you. How convenient! :) I thinkI'm gonna take a closer look at Richter. Seems very interesting. Ihadn't heard of him before.Subject: Re: Dead white malesFrom: searchbot-ga on 04 Jun 2002 11:35 PDTSo the exhibition comes right back to you. How convenient! :) I thinkI'm gonna take a closer look at Richter. Seems very interesting. Ihadn't heard of him before.Subject: Re: Dead white malesFrom: searchbot-ga on 04 Jun 2002 11:40 PDTSo the exhibition comes right back to you. How convenient! :) I thinkI'm gonna take a closer look at Richter. Seems very interesting. Ihadn't heard of him before.Subject: Re: Dead white malesFrom: searchbot-ga on 04 Jun 2002 12:28 PDTI checked again if I could come up with actual images, but I have onlycome close. You'll see what I mean. :) First some tidbit: did you knowthat in 1991, Gottfried Helnwein -- an Austrian Artist -- painted "48female characters" in response to Richter's work? He chose red as thedominating color, however. It was even discussed that Helnwein's womenwere to face the men in the entrance hall of the Museum Ludwig,Cologne. It doesn't seem that this idea was realized, though. Thefirst source has a picture in it which shows Helnwein, accompanied byfamous German feminist Alice Schwarzer. (Schwarzer, had -- accordingto the text -- been publicly raving about the fact that Richter hadonly painted men, which eventually triggered the idea in Helnwein tocreate female counterparts.) Anyway, in the background, you see someof Richter's original portraits. I know you're looking for thephotographies, but I still thought this might interest you."48 female characters"[http://www.helnwein.de/presse/international_press/artikel_60.html}Links concerning Gerhard Richter[http://www.artcyclopedia.com/artists/richter_gerhard.html]Some of Richter's other works online[http://www.sammlung-frieder-burda.de/autoindex.php3?ref=/content/deutschemalerei/richter/gemaelde/content.html]Hope you found this interesting. I certainly did.searchbot-gaSubject: Re: Dead white malesFrom: seedy-ga on 04 Jun 2002 12:50 PDTThe wonderful link posted by searchbot-ga relating the show byGottfried Helnwein ("48 Portraits" of women) is very interesting. Thebackground shows one painting (top left) which appears to be a manrather than a woman but it is NOT one of Richter's original 48 men. Ibelieve it is one of Richter's many self portraits but am not able toconfirm it at this time.Subject: Re: Dead white malesFrom: mosquitohawk-ga on 06 Jun 2002 12:10 PDTEMAIL I RECEIVED BACK:From: Bernard Cummings [Save address]Subject: Photographs but not...Date: Thursday, 6 June 2002 11:24:34 -0700[Show all headers] [Printer-friendly version]Hello My name is Bernard Cummings and I am the concierge of SFMOMA. thePhotographs of the 50 dead men are in fact paintings by artist GerhardRichter whom we will be having a retrospective of his work in October. Thewere part of Points of Departure 1 last summer. It is amazing how much theyactually look like photos. They are a part of our permanent collection.Cheers,